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		<title>Ian Snell: Not A 2009 Rotation Candidate</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[A few days ago, tucked into a small blurb in an article about potential Roy Halladay trades the Toronto Sun reported that the Yankees have been looking at banished Pirates pitcher Ian Snell. Yankees may be a third-place team, according to one scout who saw them in Anahiem. They need a starter and are looking [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few days ago, tucked into a small blurb in an article about potential Roy Halladay trades the <a href="http://www.torontosun.com/sports/baseball/2009/07/14/10123446-sun.html" target="_blank"><br />
Toronto Sun</a> reported that the Yankees have been looking at banished Pirates pitcher Ian Snell.</p>
<blockquote><p>Yankees may be a third-place team, according to one scout who saw them in Anahiem. They need a starter and are looking at Ian Snell of the Pirates. Yanks could move Phil Hughes, plus prospects.</p></blockquote>
<p>Beyond the obvious (duh any scout looking at the Yankees against the Angels thinks they&#8217;re bad), the thought of the Yankees purposely acquiring Ian Snell to fill the hole in the 2009 rotation frightens me.</p>
<p>(And before anyone freaks out the paragraph in question is saying the Yankees “could” move Phil Hughes for Halladay, not Snell.)</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re unfamiliar with Ian Snell, he was considered a good pitching prospect with the ceiling of a #3 starter. In 2003 Baseball America ranked him as the <a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/leagues/mlb/pirates/03top10p2.html" target="_blank">10th best in the Pirates system</a> (he was then known as Ian Oquendo if you&#8217;re looking it up), noting that he had a good fastball that “looked deceptively faster” and a very good curveball.</p>
<p>In 2005 Baseball America ranked him as Pittsburgh&#8217;s 4th best prospect saying</p>
<blockquote><p><a href="http://www.baseballamerica.com/online/features/04top10s/pirates.html" target="_blank">Snell has a lively fastball that sits around 93 mph and touches 95-96. He throws a sharp curveball with such late break that some opposing hitters and scouts call it a slider.</a></p></blockquote>
<p>They then noted that his fastball doesn&#8217;t have much movement on it and that his changeup still needed work.</p>
<p>Starting in 2006, Snell found himself in Pittsburgh permanently where he put up the following lines:<br />
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<td align="center"><strong>Season</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>Team</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>W</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>L</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>ERA</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>G</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>IP</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>TBF</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>H</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>R</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>ER</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>HR</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>BB</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>IBB</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>HBP</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>SO</strong></td>
<td align="center"><strong>FIP</strong></td>
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<td align="center">2006</td>
<td align="center">Pirates</td>
<td align="center">14</td>
<td align="center">11</td>
<td align="center">4.74</td>
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="center">186</td>
<td align="center">813</td>
<td align="center">198</td>
<td align="center">104</td>
<td align="center">98</td>
<td align="center">29</td>
<td align="center">74</td>
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">169</td>
<td align="center">4.58</td>
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<tr>
<td align="center">2007</td>
<td align="center">Pirates</td>
<td align="center">9</td>
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="center">3.76</td>
<td align="center">32</td>
<td align="center">208</td>
<td align="center">882</td>
<td align="center">209</td>
<td align="center">94</td>
<td align="center">87</td>
<td align="center">22</td>
<td align="center">68</td>
<td align="center">4</td>
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="center">177</td>
<td align="center">4.01</td>
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<td align="center">2008</td>
<td align="center">Pirates</td>
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="center">12</td>
<td align="center">5.42</td>
<td align="center">31</td>
<td align="center">164.1</td>
<td align="center">766</td>
<td align="center">201</td>
<td align="center">107</td>
<td align="center">99</td>
<td align="center">18</td>
<td align="center">89</td>
<td align="center">0</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">135</td>
<td align="center">4.57</td>
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<td align="center">2009</td>
<td align="center">Pirates</td>
<td align="center">2</td>
<td align="center">8</td>
<td align="center">5.36</td>
<td align="center">15</td>
<td align="center">80.2</td>
<td align="center">360</td>
<td align="center">87</td>
<td align="center">50</td>
<td align="center">48</td>
<td align="center">7</td>
<td align="center">44</td>
<td align="center">3</td>
<td align="center">1</td>
<td align="center">52</td>
<td align="center">4.58</td>
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While it seemed like 2007 was his breakout season, his 2008 season did not go smoothly and he battled through both injury and dealing with a curveball slider thing that lost a lot of bite and when he came back in 2009 he was just not good, posting a horrid 44:52 BB:K. That&#8217;s like Jose Veras this year, if you care to remember his pitching.</p>
<p>Snell was recently was demoted to AAA by his own request, after getting into a bit of a tiff with Neil Huntington, so it seems that the maturity issues that were red flagged years ago haven&#8217;t really resolved themselves yet. Pirates fans and maybe even the management think that many of his problems are in his head (maturity issues again!) and sometimes a change of scenery does help. In his first AAA start he destroyed the opposing team, striking out 17 and has posted two solid starts this then. Don&#8217;t take this as a sign that he can come in and immediately be awesome, though, as people like Brett Tomko do extremely well in AAA and never carry it over to MLB.</p>
<p>There are concerns beyond what&#8217;s going on in Snell&#8217;s head as well: As he is a guy of small stature (5&#8217;11” and about 200 pounds) there has always been some concern his body wouldn&#8217;t be able to handle the workload of a starter. Plus, relying on two pitches is always bad juju if you&#8217;re a starter (there aren&#8217;t many guys out there like A.J. Burnett and Josh Beckett).</p>
<p>More importantly, beyond his 2008 elbow injury, he just hasn&#8217;t pitched that well. While he&#8217;s been getting a bit burned by the Pittsburgh defense, the difference between his FIP and ERA isn&#8217;t enough to tag him as a major rebound candidate to come in and bolster a struggling/underachieving rotation.</p>
<p>Snell is definitely worth a look by the Yankees if he comes cheap (think Eric Hinkse cheap) as a project or depth guy for this season and next, but if they are viewing him as a piece who can improve the rotation right away the team is going to be very disappointed.</p>
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